RocketmanC99

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:56:21 AM
Kind of makes you feel sorry for used car salesmen.
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Wizrd03

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:55:09 AM
Another avenue to help the consumer make an informed decision.
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Goatroper

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:54:45 AM
So what type of recourse do you have if you find out that your car was involved in a wreck? Is the seller under obligation to disclose this?
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JuliusRex

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:53:05 AM
I like that hybridaholic, not just old but "olde".
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murushi

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:52:41 AM
I wonder if Canada has a similar database...
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jd2009

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:51:57 AM
very good information
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murushi

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:51:32 AM
LOVE the picture in the article - lemon on wheels. :-)
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bluebird1

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:49:33 AM
Very good advice & interesting that the US now has a gov't run history site. My current commuter car I bought used from a new car dealer (supposedly more honest & safer but not this time) & found out when someone rear-ended me in minor way that still undercarriage damage from a front-end accident. I'm in Ont. with 2 diff. routes for consumer action but none helped. We have a vehicle registration pkg as part of transactions but not helpful. Also checking Car Proof & another such service had no record. Also, dealers supposedly have UCDA history service that dealer states nothing on. However, dealer thru some front-end warranty service must have determined problem & didn't tell me. 3 diff. mechanics worked on it & alignment could barely be brought to spec. with the issue (& alignment was done 3 times). They actually used such services as CarProof to deflect blame from themselves. So not only have a good mechanic look it over but make sure someone with autobody knowledge does to. A run of the mill mechanical mechanic likely would not have seen the remnants left on my car.
As for Sivart, what's the complaint...you choose to read based on headings/paragraphs so choose ones you want - I'm also interested in car related items. I haven't seen even one related to gas...remember Oil doesn't seem to relate to gas prices anymore.
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fightbigoil71

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:48:46 AM
Thanks - I appreciate the advice
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paoli8

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:48:38 AM
Great information!
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JXQW

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:48:03 AM
if an accident occurred without witness and report, it is easily hidden. This probably happened a lot.
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DAK1960

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:46:51 AM
this is a great article and makes a lot of sense
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KillChain

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:44:32 AM
Its a good service, if you do it....don't use dealers history report. Do your own homework.
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minnesotagirl

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:44:28 AM
Great info. I have bookmarked that site
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TommyTraveler

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:43:54 AM
My last two cars I bought where 1 year old with factory warranty left on them. Better to buy a 1-2 yearold car then be ate alive with the depreciation of $6-10,000 hit.
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suzyq2007

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:42:38 AM
this sounds like a very smart move.
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CPapi

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:40:53 AM
No wonder i've seen so many damn Carfax commercials lately
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:38:52 AM
hope the new system works better than carfax
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hybridaholic

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:38:46 AM
Time to move onto another article, this ones olde.
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mooneagle

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:38:38 AM
read this yesterday
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:34:36 AM
Used cars: buyers beware
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:33:58 AM
This is the 5th article I read today and only one had anything to do with gas prices!!!
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ModelWarships

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:33:09 AM
even the history report doesn't tell the whole story. Sometime wreck damage is not turned in and doesn't show.
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racerdj

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:33:02 AM
A very important item not to be overlooked.
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:29:23 AM
Do your homework when buying used, espcially from an individual.
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danthemanvan

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Montgomery
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:26:00 AM
doesn't apply to the Prius!
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Italianman

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:25:58 AM
There are an awful lot of things hidden on used car lots; vehicles that have flood damage, accidents, etc.
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:25:52 AM
The National Motor Vehicle Title Information System (NMVTIS) is a near complete government resource for those looking into a new vehicle to ensure better chances of protecting yourself against salvaged or vehicles declared a total loss.
I would highly suggest checking it out, even if not in the market for a new car, to see what you can learn for future experiences.
NMVTIS also provides links to multi-state vehicle search records for as little as $4.95 for a complete report- a lot better pricing than other companies who use the extra money to market their services.
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Jeeputtputt

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:24:55 AM
Don't let your mechanic talk to the seller!!!!!!!If they are not professional liars, they learn as soon as the car is for sale..I've used Car-fax (little help), but how do we get in contact with NMVTIS ?
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wild3bill

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:22:21 AM
I had a car rear ended by run away acceleration(old guy hit gas instead of brake). We both had Allstate. An Allstate Preferred shop said they would fix the car.I wanted it totaled. Repair was poor.Bent parts that should have been replaced were poorly straightened.Leaks were never fixed. Allstate waranteed the repair I didn't want. I was sick of bringing the car to the shop for another day leave it first thing,they keep it over night. Until the body shop went out of business!!! I got a carfax on my own car, withno mention of this accident!I got a notice about a class action law suit about the secret loss of value of cars repaired in this situation
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Duallyman

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:21:56 AM
Just buy a new toyota and it will last the rest of your life. LOL
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:21:10 AM
Especially in our modern times of 24 month leases, used cars can be a good deal. But it is true that you have to have it checked over, and it's a good idea to talk to the previous owner.
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kfinto

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:18:51 AM
The best thing to do is buy new and drive the car until the wheels fall off.
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SpruceGuse2

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:18:41 AM
I have never bought a used vehicle and will not in the future. I will continue to know my history with my car and any problems I come up with are covered by the extended warrantee.
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misterray

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:18:28 AM
I've always found those Car Fax reports to be a waste of my money.
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THEDodgeman

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:18:23 AM
car fax
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CharlieC08

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:18:06 AM
New cars have a lot of bugs too.
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AnObserver

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:16:54 AM
"But there's no substitute from having a neutral mechanic check it over."
TRUE - all sorts of things can happen to a vehicle that never get reported
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roadrunnerMO

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:15:35 AM
Look that used car over closely. Should always expect some problems which will develop shortly based on amount of mileage on the vehicle.
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throttle

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:15:24 AM
Always get an up-to-date inspection.
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threewheeler

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:12:54 AM
They are called "used" cars for a reason.
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RootbeerFan

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:12:29 AM
Better off with the neutral mechanic. History reports are not always accurate or up-to-date.
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ndhoanggia

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:12:25 AM
Everyone should have a good mechanic as a friend.
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craigsf38

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:12:16 AM
I got tired of buying someone else's problems.
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debbiedl

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Akron
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:11:59 AM
Better than carfax
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Duallyman

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:09:48 AM
I don't like buying used cars anyway.
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MightyDude

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:09:30 AM
Interesting article. Just remember: "Buyer Beware"
[Edited by: MightyDude at 3/16/2010 9:11:47 AM EST]
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:09:14 AM
horses cost quite a bit of money to maintain.
stable, hay, feed, grooming, vet fees, plus major league daily cleaning...
cars may be just a wee bit cheaper...
but not as much fun as Mr. Ed
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DJRIO

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:08:23 AM
aint that truth
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BartBuzz

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:07:47 AM
They are called "used" cars for a reason.
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turbodog

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:07:39 AM
good information
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gagal31525

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2010 8:07:36 AM
I would do it if I were looking to buy a used car. Well worth the headaches it will save you in the long run.
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