MrCar
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Let's not get off the subject, We Need To Conserve!
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4eyedstang
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Neither does GM.
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dmina425
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GM in the tank, and they start talking about buying Chrysler? Maybe I'm a bit slow, but I just don't get it.
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ramfreak2003
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Wow, who would have guessed that. No one wants to belive me that Ford bites!
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papou
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So is their Quality !
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leadfoot46
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Are we going to bail ford out?
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Sneakers55
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gaschicCT wrote:
>How can GM be talking about taking over Chrysler if their own stock
>is in the ******? Do they want a bailout too??????
GM owns 49% of GMAC. Cerberus owns 81% of Chrysler.
What they're considering is having GM swap their GMAC holdings to Cerberus while Cerberus swaps their Chrysler holdings with GM. No stock required.
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Jagman98
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I think FORD made some mistakes.....but those that pay for it are the 1,000's of workers...not the hundred's of executives that made the mistakes....like moving plant out of the US while Toyota and Honda, Kia, Hyundia, Subaru and others were moving into the US....
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Kowkisser
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I had one of those fix or repair daily fords. But there is one good thing I'ss say about it. It would keep running anyway.
I blew a 3 inch hole in the radiator. Drove 180 miles on a dry radiator when it was 80+ degrees. Car was okey.
My spark plug wires were in bad shape. 2 plugs were still brand new after 50k miles. 2 others barely touched. Was running a 6 cyl car on 4 cyl and sometimes 2 cyl. Ran through the Catskills and Adirondacks. Sometimes would stall out on very long drives. Let it rest, and then it was okey.
Loved the car. A ford Taurus (1986), that I had up to 28 mpg on the highway. Was running great till I hit a telephone pole at 40 mph in the snow. (The car had 150k miles on it.)
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thomas41546
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they need a better idea
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21597
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drill drill drill
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domer2
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bring the 65 mpg car to our shores and the price will go up.
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Honda_Insight
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First On Race Day
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bbreff
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Without gas, people cannot buy cars.
Right now, I would not consider FORD or GM as a possible stock purchase, especially since they are talking a possible merger.
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RLH68
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I'm not surprised, considering how GM and Ford have fallen way behind in keeping up with the general publics desire for more fuel efficient vehicles. Instead they keep pushing the gas guzzlers in their ads. Sort of like bush, sitting in his office completely out of touch with the little people.
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janctx
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How sad that this has happened to us all, We should have bought American instead of from other countries. May God Bless us all
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Lvbg0516
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Wow! Well I'm not a Ford person anyway.
LOL right on Matts Pap
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Matts_Pap
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F:Fix O:or R: Repair D: Daily
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jjulson
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So are a lot of other stocks
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laddyboy62
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sorry state of affairs
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gaschicCT
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How can GM be talking about taking over Chrysler if their own stock is in the ******? Do they want a bailout too??????
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NYRfan
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poor Ford
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dre3101
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does not sound like a bailout may be necessary...
http://www.cnbc.com//id/27125828
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JPGKC
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We are a long time away before the pain is over.
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Schwartzmdja
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It's great that gas is going down, but I think our economy is in real trouble.
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21597
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don't ya just love it that the gov is gonna end up ownin the babks then they will know everything about you. even if you forgot to declare that ten dollar check for mowin the neighbors lawn
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priceranger
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Just another reason why oil needs to come off the commodity market. The speculators have really put a hurting on this country which is obviously effecting the whole world.
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gas1prospector
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I wonder if the execs over at Ford and GM will finally realize where there arrogance has brought them. Nevermind blaming the current Economic situation or high gas prices, the car buying public has been ignored too long. What is so difficult about just making a normal family car that gets you from point A to point B. Bigger is not better. More Bells and whistles are not required. All the customer ever wanted was good value for their hard earned dollar.
If these former behemoths don't come to their senses, the only good thing for their stock certificates, will be for lining Bird Cages.
[Edited by: gas1prospector at 10/11/2008 10:25:21 AM EST]
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Don20
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They would not build what the public wanted, (small economical vehicles) instead they tell the public what they want. The day of truth has arrived. The economy has not helped either..
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DarthDadJr
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Bad times for everyone in MI.
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Shadowwarrior
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Government won't let any of the "Big 3" go belly up.
If ya have the money to spare I would grab some of their stocks cause for one they can not go too much lower so the only direction is up once people get into their heads that things are going to improve.
[Edited by: Shadowwarrior at 10/11/2008 10:22:00 AM EST]
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bigmaninarig
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They print their own money; so why not...!?!
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Zygnatz
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What say? Another $700 billion for the big three?
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bigmaninarig
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Now is the time to buy Ford before it skyrockets again.
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gasie1
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Soon GM and Ford will be looking for a government handout.
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DooDaa
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Maybe the new car prices will come down too..
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Takmygas
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GM will get bailed out first...
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Nannabug
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"Woo Hoooooo I just made 90 days of posting I can't wait for my new fast blue car"
Glad to know I am not the only one looking forward to getting those little lines :) Be just my luck that on my 89th day there will be a power out for some reason and I will get bumped back to day 1 :(
90 days is a long time!
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bdrviper
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bummer when it says buy american it should also say built in america
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Lonewolftx
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Not a good sign . . .
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zeljko
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that is what it is worth
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21597
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Buy American
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F250CA
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Woo Hoooooo I just made 90 days of posting I can't wait for my new fast blue car
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rockinrog
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corporate greed has finally caught up with the USA.....maybe this suffering will help clean it up.
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bubbajeb
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American automakers need to step it up as well.. They need to start making the parts in America again. Get Americans their jobs in the factories back. Stop outsourcing customer service reps to the Middle East, let me talk to someone in America!
[Edited by: bubbajeb at 10/11/2008 10:05:12 AM EST]
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Pseudorious
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murphy50,
Please keep your racism and illiteracy to yourself.
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takethe_point
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Seems kinda hard to buy american cars, when all the parts that are in american cars are made from other countrys.
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rgb42722
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So sad.
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bubbajeb
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murphy50.. You hit the nail on the head. Everyone is so quick to say if ford had done this, and ford had done that... It's the American peoples fault..Keep supporting the foreign car markey. You are only hurting Americans when you buy foreign murchandise. I personally have NEVER, not even my first rat-box car, owned anything but an American made car. Support your country, buy MADE IN THE USA on everything, and you will help your own economy start to recover!!!
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cableman31
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A sorry state of affairs. Thank you G.W.
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